Ok, I love anything Espinosa makes. However, these are my least favorites. They are a big ring. Some people like that. I don't so much. They don't burn well. Almost half of them burned poorly. I had to ditch a bunch of them because, even after numerous touch-ups, they canooed and tunneled. The smaller ring gauge LA Bombas are a LOT better. I will not be buying these again. I guess if you're a SUPER patient smoker, these might work better for you. Who knows. YMMV. Of course, Atlantic is a great company, and this is not their fault. I always get my smokes really quickly and nicely shipped. No reflection on them at all. I will continue to buy from them without hesitation.